Comments on: MOORE vs CNN http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/ J'ai vécu aux Etats-Unis, en Pennsylvanie sur le campus de Pennstate University, de janvier 2003 à novembre 2005. J'ai témoigné grâce à ce blog et vous invite à consulter les archives de cette période. De retour en France, je continue à m'intéresser à ce fabuleux pays. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:11:35 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Dreamer http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-397245 Dreamer Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:23:17 +0000 http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-397245 Je dit aux americains juste pour vous rassurer, Tant que vous êtes americains vous vous ameliorerez, c'est cela qui vous a contruits et détournés des démons millénaires de l'europe. Dès lors que vous vous rapprocherez de plus en plus des européens et des catholiquesainsi que de leur idées (dont beaucoup ne sont pas ce qu'ils paraîssent), vous vous rapprocherez de plus en plus de leur démons. Mickaël MOORE est une de leur taupes. C'est peut-être mystérieux, mais c'est ainsi !!! Soyez inventifs, restez AMERICAINS ! Je dit aux americains juste pour vous rassurer,
Tant que vous êtes americains vous vous ameliorerez, c’est cela qui vous a contruits et détournés des démons millénaires de l’europe.
Dès lors que vous vous rapprocherez de plus en plus des européens et des catholiquesainsi que de leur idées (dont beaucoup ne sont pas ce qu’ils paraîssent), vous vous rapprocherez de plus en plus de leur démons. Mickaël MOORE est une de leur taupes.
C’est peut-être mystérieux, mais c’est ainsi !!!
Soyez inventifs, restez AMERICAINS !

]]> By: Greg http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-382078 Greg Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:28:35 +0000 http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-382078 I know - mean old Greg, challenging Michael Moore. I should just get in line with the crowd if I want to avoid personal attacks, insults and lies about my beliefs. I know – mean old Greg, challenging Michael Moore. I should just get in line with the crowd if I want to avoid personal attacks, insults and lies about my beliefs.

]]> By: ms. miami http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-382069 ms. miami Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:05:43 +0000 http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-382069 <i>I doubt anyone will be viciously attacking you for it</i> greg (61)- what can i say, greg? attacks beget attacks... I doubt anyone will be viciously attacking you for it

greg (61)- what can i say, greg? attacks beget attacks…

]]> By: Greg http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-382045 Greg Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:56:15 +0000 http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-382045 MsM (59): not sure how you can tell, but thanx for the clarification. Whoever it was knows exactly how to piss me off. As to Moore, looks like we agree, though I doubt anyone will be viciously attacking you for it. Moore spurs debate, but he also poisons it. JF (60): Actually, no JF, I was talking about Cuban prisons, filled with political prisoners. You know - the real gualg no one ever talks about. MsM (59): not sure how you can tell, but thanx for the clarification. Whoever it was knows exactly how to piss me off.

As to Moore, looks like we agree, though I doubt anyone will be viciously attacking you for it. Moore spurs debate, but he also poisons it.

JF (60): Actually, no JF, I was talking about Cuban prisons, filled with political prisoners. You know – the real gualg no one ever talks about.

]]> By: JF http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-382032 JF Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:40:23 +0000 http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-382032 @ Greg (11 juillet 2007 à 22:20) "But nobody who is sane wants America to be like Cuba - an island prison where the REAL torture happens every day." Oui, à Guantanamo ! @ Greg (11 juillet 2007 à 22:20)
“But nobody who is sane wants America to be like Cuba – an island prison where the REAL torture happens every day.”

Oui, à Guantanamo !

]]> By: ms. miami http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-382022 ms. miami Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:22:31 +0000 http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-382022 wow- mes commentaires portent loin! greg- fyi- alain, etc. isn't flocon, but must have been present in some form at that discussion (at least, alain isn't flocon's real name). as to the topic, i do have issues with some of moore's tactics, but that's ok- everyone needs to view everything from every source with a critical eye. i do appreciate the fact that his works spotlight important social issues and get conversations flowing. now, if only people were spending more time discussing our medical system... wow- mes commentaires portent loin!

greg- fyi- alain, etc. isn’t flocon, but must have been present in some form at that discussion (at least, alain isn’t flocon’s real name).

as to the topic, i do have issues with some of moore’s tactics, but that’s ok- everyone needs to view everything from every source with a critical eye.

i do appreciate the fact that his works spotlight important social issues and get conversations flowing. now, if only people were spending more time discussing our medical system…

]]> By: Steven Rix http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-381415 Steven Rix Sat, 14 Jul 2007 05:07:40 +0000 http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-381415 Voici une preuve que Rumsfeld avait loue une equipe du bureau de propagande mediatique pour etouffer leurs propres mensonges (ADM par exemple). A l'epoque, j'avais eu une altercation litteraire avec un employe du Pentagon (j'avais explose sa couverture) qui me disait qu'ils trouveraient des armes en Irak, 1 mois apres l'invasion, et je les avais defie de trouver quoi que ce soit. (Suite a cela le Pentagon me ICMPait tous les jours). Un jour je ressortirai le log pour le mettre a la disposition du public, apres 2008 si possible. <I> "The U.S. government will have to develop an institutional capability to anticipate and act within the same news cycle," he said in the address. "That will require instituting 24-hour press operation centers, elevating Internet operations and other channels of communication to the equal status with the traditional 20th Century press relations. It will result in much less reliance on the traditional print press, just as the publics of the U.S. and the world are relying less on newspapers as their principal source of information." While Rumsfeld's media response unit is gone, Gertz noted that Gates had some of its operations "folded into other elements of the Pentagon"s public-affairs office." </I> http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Pentagon_kills_Rumsfeld_propaganda_unit_0713.html Voici une preuve que Rumsfeld avait loue une equipe du bureau de propagande mediatique pour etouffer leurs propres mensonges (ADM par exemple). A l’epoque, j’avais eu une altercation litteraire avec un employe du Pentagon (j’avais explose sa couverture) qui me disait qu’ils trouveraient des armes en Irak, 1 mois apres l’invasion, et je les avais defie de trouver quoi que ce soit. (Suite a cela le Pentagon me ICMPait tous les jours). Un jour je ressortirai le log pour le mettre a la disposition du public, apres 2008 si possible.

“The U.S. government will have to develop an institutional capability to anticipate and act within the same news cycle,” he said in the address. “That will require instituting 24-hour press operation centers, elevating Internet operations and other channels of communication to the equal status with the traditional 20th Century press relations. It will result in much less reliance on the traditional print press, just as the publics of the U.S. and the world are relying less on newspapers as their principal source of information.”

While Rumsfeld’s media response unit is gone, Gertz noted that Gates had some of its operations “folded into other elements of the Pentagon”s public-affairs office.”

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Pentagon_kills_Rumsfeld_propaganda_unit_0713.html

]]> By: links for 2007-07-14 » Alter Nativa http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-381376 links for 2007-07-14 » Alter Nativa Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:20:48 +0000 http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-381376 [...] Inside the USA » MOORE vs CNN (tags: moore cnn usa) [...] [...] Inside the USA » MOORE vs CNN (tags: moore cnn usa) [...]

]]> By: Jerome ITU http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-381295 Jerome ITU Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:13:42 +0000 http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-381295 Igor/Pierre/Michel/Alain, please stick to one, and only one, username. Thx. Igor/Pierre/Michel/Alain,
please stick to one, and only one, username.
Thx.

]]> By: Igor http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-381253 Igor Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:49:56 +0000 http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/10/moore-vs-cnn/#comment-381253 Comme tu as bien fait Greg de donner aussi ce lein vers SuperFrenchie. Même observation que pour la billet de Mauriac. It's worth reading the comments. I found this exchange with ms.miami: - ms. miami Says: Greg, in any case, it’s classic strawman: pretend that people are arguing something else and defeat that false argument. - Greg Says: Oh, you know me so well, ms. miami. Pourquoi tout le monde chez Mauriac comme chez SuperFrenchie se positionne-t-il envers toi en étant persuadé que tu es "pour" la torture Greg? Te serais-tu mal exprimé une fois et ça aurait engendré un malentendu qui dure depuis? Ce serait étonnant. Bon, mea culpa, Greg va donc officiellement nous déclarer qu'il est "contre" la torture. (Juste a little detail for everyone to know: What Greg understands with "torture" isn't exactly what everybody else does.) Maintenant je dois partir... Sois sympa Greg, n'en profite pas comme d'hab. pour dire que je fuis l'échange. You know me so well, don't you? (I'm a far leftist etc.) Comme tu as bien fait Greg de donner aussi ce lein vers SuperFrenchie. Même observation que pour la billet de Mauriac. It’s worth reading the comments.
I found this exchange with ms.miami:

- ms. miami Says:
Greg, in any case, it’s classic strawman: pretend that people are arguing something else and defeat that false argument.

- Greg Says:
Oh, you know me so well, ms. miami.

Pourquoi tout le monde chez Mauriac comme chez SuperFrenchie se positionne-t-il envers toi en étant persuadé que tu es “pour” la torture Greg?
Te serais-tu mal exprimé une fois et ça aurait engendré un malentendu qui dure depuis? Ce serait étonnant.
Bon, mea culpa, Greg va donc officiellement nous déclarer qu’il est “contre” la torture.
(Juste a little detail for everyone to know: What Greg understands with “torture” isn’t exactly what everybody else does.)

Maintenant je dois partir… Sois sympa Greg, n’en profite pas comme d’hab. pour dire que je fuis l’échange. You know me so well, don’t you? (I’m a far leftist etc.)

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