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	<description>J'ai vécu aux Etats-Unis, en Pennsylvanie sur le campus de Pennstate University, de janvier 2003 à novembre 2005. J'ai témoigné grâce à ce blog et vous invite à consulter les archives de cette période. De retour en France, je continue à m'intéresser à ce fabuleux pays.</description>
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		<title>By: Steven Rix</title>
		<link>http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/23/le-smic-us-augmente/#comment-384867</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29 When I was in the US for the 1st time, I did not see any difference at all to tell you the truth, and then I started thinking about the subject, and I keep finding these differences at any point of my life. Finding differences IMO does not mean you did not assimilate culture, it only allows to be more perceptive to these cultural differences. I&#039;m more familiar with the West and South culture of the US, I don&#039;t really know the culture on the East coast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29 When I was in the US for the 1st time, I did not see any difference at all to tell you the truth, and then I started thinking about the subject, and I keep finding these differences at any point of my life. Finding differences IMO does not mean you did not assimilate culture, it only allows to be more perceptive to these cultural differences. I&#8217;m more familiar with the West and South culture of the US, I don&#8217;t really know the culture on the East coast.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Ann</title>
		<link>http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/23/le-smic-us-augmente/#comment-384865</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

Interesting posts on what French students in the U.S. experience.

When I was a young girl, 18 years old, I was an exchange student, and I&#039;ve returned to France many times since then.

Í guess that I&#039;m weird, because I don&#039;t see so many differences between cultures as I do between individual people/families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>Interesting posts on what French students in the U.S. experience.</p>
<p>When I was a young girl, 18 years old, I was an exchange student, and I&#8217;ve returned to France many times since then.</p>
<p>Í guess that I&#8217;m weird, because I don&#8217;t see so many differences between cultures as I do between individual people/families.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Rix</title>
		<link>http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/23/le-smic-us-augmente/#comment-384641</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vu dans les logs mon blog:

- Comment se pendre 
- Le jour du 11 septembre 2002
- Pots d&#039;echappement d&#039;avions 
- Is Canada in the USA?

MDR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vu dans les logs mon blog:</p>
<p>- Comment se pendre<br />
- Le jour du 11 septembre 2002<br />
- Pots d&#8217;echappement d&#8217;avions<br />
- Is Canada in the USA?</p>
<p>MDR.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Rix</title>
		<link>http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/23/le-smic-us-augmente/#comment-384640</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: le temps a Vegas est horrible dernierement. On a eu la mousson (finalement) et il a plu quelques heures seulement, par contre maintenant c&#039;est l&#039;humidite qui a fait place a la secheresse, on se croirait en Louisiane ici; on se sent assomme par le temps avec des fortes envies de dormir, et meme l&#039;A/C fonctionne mal quand c&#039;est humide. Ca va etre ainsi pendant tout le mois de juillet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: le temps a Vegas est horrible dernierement. On a eu la mousson (finalement) et il a plu quelques heures seulement, par contre maintenant c&#8217;est l&#8217;humidite qui a fait place a la secheresse, on se croirait en Louisiane ici; on se sent assomme par le temps avec des fortes envies de dormir, et meme l&#8217;A/C fonctionne mal quand c&#8217;est humide. Ca va etre ainsi pendant tout le mois de juillet.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Rix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J&#039;ai recu ce texte dans ma mailbox, et ze tenais a vous le faire partager car il s&#039;agit des differences culturelles plus particulierement entre la France et les USA, le fil conducteur du texte est casse, mais il resume bien les differences culturelles, avec les stereotypes aussi:

*When I say &#039;American&#039;, *

*do you think &#039;fat and stupid&#039;?*


By Tamara Laszlo



I am a young French professional who lives in London. As a student, I lived in Spain and in the United States for a year each. These two successive experiences had a long-lasting impact on me – I realized how much influence national cultures had on the way people thought and viewed the world.



In this article I would like to write about one particular issue that affects me – how strong stereotypes about Americans and America are compared to other nations&#039;. My problem with this is that when my fellow countrymen – the French – criticize the Americans in a stereotypical way, I feel offended because I know those are caricatures, not the complex truth.



I will try to present you with an account of the stereotypes I had before going to the US for the first time, what I found there, and then explore some differences in French and American values. I will finish with a comparison of perceptions of Spaniards and Americans in France, and how much stronger the American stereotypes are,



*Expectations*



Before going to the United States for the first time – I was 15 years old, and I left with six other French students and a teacher, and we all stayed with host families – I had a very vague idea of Americans, and the main thing I thought I would find there were beaches and smiling people with beautiful bodies (I was going to Florida). I was attracted to the country – the open landscapes, the fact that everything looked bigger and brighter.



*My American experience*



When I arrived, I was immediately blown away: everything was bigger! I particularly loved the roads – so straight and so wide! At first, it was difficult to understand the language. I had an excuse: French schools and universities insist on teaching almost exclusively British English and British culture and history. American English is viewed as a &#039;distorted&#039;, &#039;run-down&#039; version of the &#039;purer&#039;, and essentially &#039;more civilized&#039; British English (most French people will tell you that the Americans have no culture whatsoever).



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




I also discovered *new ways of living and different values*: at my new home, I was showed all the rooms when I arrived (this contrasts with the French culture where many rooms are considered private, so either they show you extremely quickly, or they don&#039;t show you certain rooms at all), and I was allowed to help myself whenever I was hungry (in the American culture, I found that personal needs and choices are less group-dependent). In France you constantly attend to hosts and eat with them. They are rarely allowed to go through the closets, because it would be an invasion of privacy.
Basically, they are guests, not members of the family.

I also noticed that religion is much more important in the US. The second day after my arrival, I joined my host family to go to church. I met some of the other French students there, who had come with their host families. I think none of us was a Protestant, but we all wanted to go in order to discover an important part of our host families&#039; lives. We joined the youngsters&#039; group, with very loud Christian rock music and a stage, where we participated in a game along with everyone else. However, after an hour of extremely loud music, not understanding much of what was being said, and with jet lag weighing in, we all had big headaches. We decided to go on the porch outside for a bit of fresh air. After five minutes, the mother of my host family arrived, visibly upset, and scolded us: she said we were extremely disrespectful. She didn&#039;t give us a chance to explain anything. We were all taken home in silent cars, because the families wouldn&#039;t speak to us. Fortunately, the rest of the stay was fine, but that incident left quite an impression on me.

Looking back on it, I think the families were shocked by the answers we gave to their question - they had asked us about our religious orientation before going to church. We were all either atheists or non-practicing Catholics.
And then I think they were influenced by the French stereotypes (&#039;immoral&#039;
and &#039;godless&#039;). Every time I told an American that I didn&#039;t believe in God (that time and other times later in my life), they looked at me with a blank stare, as if they did not understand what I was saying. And then they acted like they wanted to avoid the subject altogether, as if this was too much to cope with. I think that many Americans think that not believing in god equals having no moral sense. This is a fundamental difference between the French and the American cultures – religion doesn&#039;t play such an obvious role in France, and atheists are considered &#039;normal&#039; people.


Euh le texte etant un peu trop long et par peur d&#039;embouser cette thread, j&#039;ai mis un lien ici:

http://politiquesusa.blogspot.com/2007/07/americans-as-viewed-by-french.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J&#8217;ai recu ce texte dans ma mailbox, et ze tenais a vous le faire partager car il s&#8217;agit des differences culturelles plus particulierement entre la France et les USA, le fil conducteur du texte est casse, mais il resume bien les differences culturelles, avec les stereotypes aussi:</p>
<p>*When I say &#8216;American&#8217;, *</p>
<p>*do you think &#8216;fat and stupid&#8217;?*</p>
<p>By Tamara Laszlo</p>
<p>I am a young French professional who lives in London. As a student, I lived in Spain and in the United States for a year each. These two successive experiences had a long-lasting impact on me – I realized how much influence national cultures had on the way people thought and viewed the world.</p>
<p>In this article I would like to write about one particular issue that affects me – how strong stereotypes about Americans and America are compared to other nations&#8217;. My problem with this is that when my fellow countrymen – the French – criticize the Americans in a stereotypical way, I feel offended because I know those are caricatures, not the complex truth.</p>
<p>I will try to present you with an account of the stereotypes I had before going to the US for the first time, what I found there, and then explore some differences in French and American values. I will finish with a comparison of perceptions of Spaniards and Americans in France, and how much stronger the American stereotypes are,</p>
<p>*Expectations*</p>
<p>Before going to the United States for the first time – I was 15 years old, and I left with six other French students and a teacher, and we all stayed with host families – I had a very vague idea of Americans, and the main thing I thought I would find there were beaches and smiling people with beautiful bodies (I was going to Florida). I was attracted to the country – the open landscapes, the fact that everything looked bigger and brighter.</p>
<p>*My American experience*</p>
<p>When I arrived, I was immediately blown away: everything was bigger! I particularly loved the roads – so straight and so wide! At first, it was difficult to understand the language. I had an excuse: French schools and universities insist on teaching almost exclusively British English and British culture and history. American English is viewed as a &#8216;distorted&#8217;, &#8216;run-down&#8217; version of the &#8216;purer&#8217;, and essentially &#8216;more civilized&#8217; British English (most French people will tell you that the Americans have no culture whatsoever).</p>
<p>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++</p>
<p>I also discovered *new ways of living and different values*: at my new home, I was showed all the rooms when I arrived (this contrasts with the French culture where many rooms are considered private, so either they show you extremely quickly, or they don&#8217;t show you certain rooms at all), and I was allowed to help myself whenever I was hungry (in the American culture, I found that personal needs and choices are less group-dependent). In France you constantly attend to hosts and eat with them. They are rarely allowed to go through the closets, because it would be an invasion of privacy.<br />
Basically, they are guests, not members of the family.</p>
<p>I also noticed that religion is much more important in the US. The second day after my arrival, I joined my host family to go to church. I met some of the other French students there, who had come with their host families. I think none of us was a Protestant, but we all wanted to go in order to discover an important part of our host families&#8217; lives. We joined the youngsters&#8217; group, with very loud Christian rock music and a stage, where we participated in a game along with everyone else. However, after an hour of extremely loud music, not understanding much of what was being said, and with jet lag weighing in, we all had big headaches. We decided to go on the porch outside for a bit of fresh air. After five minutes, the mother of my host family arrived, visibly upset, and scolded us: she said we were extremely disrespectful. She didn&#8217;t give us a chance to explain anything. We were all taken home in silent cars, because the families wouldn&#8217;t speak to us. Fortunately, the rest of the stay was fine, but that incident left quite an impression on me.</p>
<p>Looking back on it, I think the families were shocked by the answers we gave to their question &#8211; they had asked us about our religious orientation before going to church. We were all either atheists or non-practicing Catholics.<br />
And then I think they were influenced by the French stereotypes (&#8217;immoral&#8217;<br />
and &#8216;godless&#8217;). Every time I told an American that I didn&#8217;t believe in God (that time and other times later in my life), they looked at me with a blank stare, as if they did not understand what I was saying. And then they acted like they wanted to avoid the subject altogether, as if this was too much to cope with. I think that many Americans think that not believing in god equals having no moral sense. This is a fundamental difference between the French and the American cultures – religion doesn&#8217;t play such an obvious role in France, and atheists are considered &#8216;normal&#8217; people.</p>
<p>Euh le texte etant un peu trop long et par peur d&#8217;embouser cette thread, j&#8217;ai mis un lien ici:</p>
<p><a href="http://politiquesusa.blogspot.com/2007/07/americans-as-viewed-by-french.html" rel="nofollow">http://politiquesusa.blogspot.com/2007/07/americans-as-viewed-by-french.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Rix</title>
		<link>http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/23/le-smic-us-augmente/#comment-384635</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 Broadband services? A Vegas le majeur ISP est Cox, et leur service est de tres tres mauvaise qualite. La ville est entierement cablee dans ce desert, et ils ont 2 satellites de 300 Gbps mais ce n&#039;est pas suffisant. Le resultat est execrable, on est coupe de l&#039;Internet au moins 10 fois par jour, avec des  pointes de 40 fois par jour,  avec des coupures intermittentes entre 5 et 30 minutes. 
Cox a separe leur service entre 2 secteurs: le commercial et le grand public. Sur le commercial, le service est impeccable, jamais de coupure, par contre vous devez payer le transfer sur le commercial, et ce n&#039;est pas $50 par mois, mais ca se chiffre en plusieurs milliers de dollars. Dans le service grand public, ils ont bloque certains port, comme le port 21 en FTP, le port 80 et 8080 en UDP, et vous avez meme un transfer limite de quelques dizaines de gigas par mois. On a pris un immense retard dans l&#039;Internet aux USA sur la vitesse de la bande passante. La plupart des villes sont equipees a peine pour du 8 mbs en download, l&#039;upload ne depassant pas les 1 mbs (sauf en AZ car la loi est differente la-bas) et on trouve parfois du 50 mbs mais c&#039;est encore rare. Le prix des OSC et T3 sont inabordables, bref pour faire du business ici, c&#039;est impossible.
Tiens il y a l&#039;Inde qui est en train de developper un projet sur l&#039;Internet et tout leur resident auront l&#039;acces gratuit a l&#039;internet. En France, d&#039;apres les dernieres nouvelles j&#039;ai entendu dire que meme la DSL est disponible dans des zones rurales. Donc oui on a pris un retard certain aux USA, apres le 911.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 Broadband services? A Vegas le majeur ISP est Cox, et leur service est de tres tres mauvaise qualite. La ville est entierement cablee dans ce desert, et ils ont 2 satellites de 300 Gbps mais ce n&#8217;est pas suffisant. Le resultat est execrable, on est coupe de l&#8217;Internet au moins 10 fois par jour, avec des  pointes de 40 fois par jour,  avec des coupures intermittentes entre 5 et 30 minutes.<br />
Cox a separe leur service entre 2 secteurs: le commercial et le grand public. Sur le commercial, le service est impeccable, jamais de coupure, par contre vous devez payer le transfer sur le commercial, et ce n&#8217;est pas $50 par mois, mais ca se chiffre en plusieurs milliers de dollars. Dans le service grand public, ils ont bloque certains port, comme le port 21 en FTP, le port 80 et 8080 en UDP, et vous avez meme un transfer limite de quelques dizaines de gigas par mois. On a pris un immense retard dans l&#8217;Internet aux USA sur la vitesse de la bande passante. La plupart des villes sont equipees a peine pour du 8 mbs en download, l&#8217;upload ne depassant pas les 1 mbs (sauf en AZ car la loi est differente la-bas) et on trouve parfois du 50 mbs mais c&#8217;est encore rare. Le prix des OSC et T3 sont inabordables, bref pour faire du business ici, c&#8217;est impossible.<br />
Tiens il y a l&#8217;Inde qui est en train de developper un projet sur l&#8217;Internet et tout leur resident auront l&#8217;acces gratuit a l&#8217;internet. En France, d&#8217;apres les dernieres nouvelles j&#8217;ai entendu dire que meme la DSL est disponible dans des zones rurales. Donc oui on a pris un retard certain aux USA, apres le 911.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Rix</title>
		<link>http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/23/le-smic-us-augmente/#comment-384404</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meme avec une assurance sante aux USA, les soins sont bien trop chers. Une copine a moi a deja plus de $10,000 a payer a l&#039;hopital au bout de quelques visites. 
Pour les touristes etrangers venant aux USA, il faut prendre une assurance speciale pour venir ici. Je connais le cas d&#039;un couple canadien qui avait eu un accident de voiture il y a a quelques annees et ils avaient du payer plus de $200,000 en soins. Et si vous ne payez pas aux USA, ils se debrouilleront toujours pour vous faire payer: si vous possedez une maison ils ont le droit de mettre un credit sur votre maison, ca s&#039;appelle le &quot;tax lien&quot;:

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_lien

Tiens ce matin, j&#039;ai vu une personne dans la rue avec un panneau a la main: &quot;ovary cancer, please help me&quot;.

Voila le systeme sante aux USA. Bravo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meme avec une assurance sante aux USA, les soins sont bien trop chers. Une copine a moi a deja plus de $10,000 a payer a l&#8217;hopital au bout de quelques visites.<br />
Pour les touristes etrangers venant aux USA, il faut prendre une assurance speciale pour venir ici. Je connais le cas d&#8217;un couple canadien qui avait eu un accident de voiture il y a a quelques annees et ils avaient du payer plus de $200,000 en soins. Et si vous ne payez pas aux USA, ils se debrouilleront toujours pour vous faire payer: si vous possedez une maison ils ont le droit de mettre un credit sur votre maison, ca s&#8217;appelle le &#8220;tax lien&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_lien" rel="nofollow">http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_lien</a></p>
<p>Tiens ce matin, j&#8217;ai vu une personne dans la rue avec un panneau a la main: &#8220;ovary cancer, please help me&#8221;.</p>
<p>Voila le systeme sante aux USA. Bravo.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Ann</title>
		<link>http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/23/le-smic-us-augmente/#comment-384243</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Qu’elle travaille, qu’elle ne travaille pas, qu’elle perçoive le salaire minimum ou pas, tout le monde bénéficie de la couverture sociale avec une égale qualité de soins&lt;/i&gt;

Thank you Alain. Oh that people here could understand and support this level of compassion... sigh..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Qu’elle travaille, qu’elle ne travaille pas, qu’elle perçoive le salaire minimum ou pas, tout le monde bénéficie de la couverture sociale avec une égale qualité de soins</i></p>
<p>Thank you Alain. Oh that people here could understand and support this level of compassion&#8230; sigh..</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome ITU</title>
		<link>http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/23/le-smic-us-augmente/#comment-384229</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome ITU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Un point de vue... engagé :
http://www.ifrap.org/emploi/smic-France-US.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Un point de vue&#8230; engagé :<br />
<a href="http://www.ifrap.org/emploi/smic-France-US.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ifrap.org/emploi/smic-France-US.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alain</title>
		<link>http://insidetheusa.net/2007/07/23/le-smic-us-augmente/#comment-384227</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo Ann, l&#039;assurance maladie est universelle en France. Le statut social de la personne est indifférent. Qu&#039;elle travaille, qu&#039;elle ne travaille pas, qu&#039;elle perçoive le salaire minimum ou pas, tout le monde bénéficie de la couverture sociale avec une égale qualité de soins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo Ann, l&#8217;assurance maladie est universelle en France. Le statut social de la personne est indifférent. Qu&#8217;elle travaille, qu&#8217;elle ne travaille pas, qu&#8217;elle perçoive le salaire minimum ou pas, tout le monde bénéficie de la couverture sociale avec une égale qualité de soins.</p>
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